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Performing rituals? 10 years 9 months ago #1354

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@Muthu & Sakthi

Now this makes the concept little bit clear. Thank you.

Still the following things are not very clear.

So the objective is clear, the individual need to become bankrupt, means give everything up.
What do we give up, does this mean just perform duties without expecting returns?

Rituals are done and the benefit which is produced gets burnt by using the transcendental knowledge which the ritual performer has.
For this do the ritual performer already needs to have Transcendental knowledge?

Once this knowledge is gained it is easy to see who is the owner of the effect of every action and what are WE doing.
So our object to gain knowledge means to be aware of the action with the ONE in mind, right?

Gaining Knowledge can also increase our Ego, isn't it?

Please clarify these things.

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Performing rituals? 10 years 9 months ago #1355

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@ Muthu & Sakthi

Just got these thoughts...
1. Giving up the doer ship or the 'I'.
2. Gaining the knowledge to be aware that I am not the doer.
3. When we perform with this intention that ' Naham karatha hari kartha' the action won't bind us and hence we become bankrupt therefore no rebirth?

Please correct me.

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Performing rituals? 10 years 9 months ago #1356

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What do we give up, does this mean just perform duties without expecting returns?
Every duty is going to have an affect, that is the protocol. But perform the duty and leave the effect to be handled by the ONE.

For this do the ritual performer already needs to have Transcendental knowledge?
The transcendental knowledge always exists. But this is covered by the DESIRE aspect. Like the mirror covered with dust. The only thing the performer need to do is clean the DIRT or DESIRE when perform the rituals. When the performed does the ritual like then by default it is done with the KNOWLEDGE. If the rituals are done with the DIRT or DESIRE then the effect are the rituals are channeled towards the I instead of the ONE. This leads to accumulate more in the account instead of emptying the account.

So our object to gain knowledge means to be aware of the action with the ONE in mind, right?
Exactly. Be aware and channel the effect of action towards the ONE.

Gaining Knowledge can also increase our Ego, isn't it?
If anything increases the ego, then it is not KNOWLEDGE. True KNOWLEDGE is suppose to burn the ego.

CAUTION : KNOWLEDGE alone also cannot do anything. If there is KNOWLEDGE and no application, that KNOWLEDGE is useless.

KNOWLEDGE + APPLICATION = REALIZATION

APPLICATION can be also be termed as RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ONE (Bakthi Yoga), CONTEMPLATING AND CONNECTING TO THE ONE (Gnayana Yoga), PERFORMING ACTIONS AND LEAVING THE RESULTS TO THE ONE (Karma Yoga).

On all the above types of yoga one aspect is common "CONNECTION"

So we can see the KNOWLEDGE always exists, the only thing the I need to do is perform any of the above yoga with awareness and CONNECT to the ONE. The type of yoga can be selected/assigned based on the nature of the I.

Every individual comes under any of these below aspects

Physical - They choose Karma Yoga (BODY)
Emotional - They choose Bakthi Yoga (MIND)
Intellect - They choose Gnyana Yoga (FIRE)

All the above yoga needs one thing common called AWARENESS (AIR). Without AWARENESS any yoga/ritual/application performed will be useless.

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Performing rituals? 10 years 9 months ago #1359

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I got it. Thank you so much.

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Performing rituals? 10 years 9 months ago #1361

@Neelima

Thank you. Without your question, this learning might not have come. Thanks again for bringing up this point. I learned a lot from this discussion.

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