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Maya 10 years 6 months ago #1125

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We all now understand that we are living in unreal world. So now how do we come out of this dreamland? How do we know what is real world? Is it only through Meditation and always being in Awareness?

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Maya 10 years 6 months ago #1127

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You have the question and also the answer. Yes being in awareness is the only way to see the real world.

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You go to a stream to drink water and when you are about to drink water you look into the water and start enjoy your beauty by seeing the shadow on the water. After sometime you realize what you are seeing is not you and then you are asking the question how should I come out of this unreal world. Simple answer is just drink the water and don't look the shadow, then you will see water as water and other things as it is, except you will not see your image. There will be loss and gain in both the world. In unreal world you will will have your shadow, but loose others, and in real world you will loose your shadow, but get everything as it is.

So be clear about the need and be aware about your need while performing the action and then stick to that need. If this can be performed, an individual will not get lost while performing the action.

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Maya 10 years 6 months ago #1129

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@Muthu

May be we can put it in different way like this-
Instead of not looking at Water (Since that becomes escaping from the situation)we should be aware that it is mere Water that is there and just perform our duty of drinking water.

Same way when we see the shadow we must know it is just a shadow and don’t get away with the “I & Mine” thoughts.

"There will be loss and gain in both the world. In unreal world you will will have your shadow, but loose others, and in real world you will loose your shadow, but get everything as it is."

I see that,in this example, in unreal world the shadow alone is there with us but when the person leaves the place the shadow isn't there.So it is just the "I" feeling of the character that is playing here.

Similarly, as we assume that we are in the real world, we must be aware that it is not what we see (Relationships or attachments with other things around us etc) with the unreal "I" feeling but be aware all the time that everything that our Sense organs sense are just the expressions of the “One Consciousness” and we need to just perform our duties as the situation demands for.

Again, may be when we say "Need" the "I" ness keeps getting stronger So as we discussed in the five personalities we must just perform our duties.

Please let me know your views and if I understood the concept correctly.

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Maya 10 years 6 months ago #1130

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Bulls eye on the drinking water and shadow analogy understanding. Exactly as you mentioned if we go to drink water (WHICH IS THE NEED), just drink water and come out. In other words be clear on your NEED and once the NEED is satisfied just stop until the next NEED arises. If we go in a NEED in a NEED in a NEED then it is very hard to come out and see which NEED came first (This concept is beautifully done in a movie INCEPTION).

"WE" this is also an other form of "I". "I" or "WE" don't have any duties like the shadow analogy. Whatever is projected as "WE" or "I" does is mere consciousness expression.

Whenever we mentioned "I'm doing" or "We are doing" be aware that these "I" and "We" are unreal and the action which is projected is actually the action performed by consciousness.

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So, First The NEED has to be very clear. Here the "NEED" is for the unreal "I" or for the Consciousness (The real Me)?

For an example there is a need to purchase a Car for commuting for the unreal "I". There, the Consciousness arranges for the financial requirements and purchases the car. The unreal "I" is just a medium through which the need of the unreal "I" is satisfied.

So, here we have to be aware that it the Consciousness principle that is working for satisfying the NEED of the unreal "I"? Of course I understandd that "We" is also a form of "I".

Now how much authority does the unreal I has when dealing with bringing up kids in right direction or To what extent should the unreal"I" involve in resolving any family or other issues, being aware of the Truth that every other person is also "Consciousness".

How do we experience this Consciousness principle internally "Antarmukhta"?

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Maya 10 years 6 months ago #1134

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When something NEED something it is obviously the unreal. Because the real is always complete, it doesn't need anything.

In your example the car is a NEED (Car) in another NEED (Commuting). Next finance is another NEED inside the the NEED (Car). So the unreal "I" transforms the consciousness energy to FINANCE, then CAR and then COMMUTE. The innermost NEED gets fulfilled first, then comes to the outer most. After reaching the outermost the ignorant unreal "I" feels "I" got this car, but the awarefull "I" will feel the FINANCE, CAR and COMMUTE are expansions of the consciousness.

Dealing with Kids.

If a question is asked how much authority does your shadow has on you? What will be your answer?

Kids are reflection of parents. An ignorant parent will think he/she can bring up the kids in the right direction. This is like standing in front of the mirror and applying make ups on the mirror. Here mirror gets dirty and you don't get beautiful. Your reflection in another mirror will be the same old reflection.

An awareful parent will think is it not easy to change the original (parent) which is in my control!!? If this change happens then the reflection (kids) changes automatically. This is like standing in front of the mirror and decorating yourself, here the mirror doesn't get dirty, but you get beautiful in turn the reflection in any mirror will look beautiful.

So there are 2 options to raise the children

Option 1 - Apply the cosmetics on the mirror.
Result - You might look beautiful only on the mirror which got decorated and also only when you stand in the right position.


Option 2 - Apply the cosmetics on yourself.
Result - You will look beautiful on any mirror in which ever position you stand.


Dealing with the family issues is the same as dealing with kids.

The trouble/harmony which we see outside is an expansion of the consciousness which is fulfilling the layers of NEEDS. If you see trouble /harmony then the awareful "I" will accept it is it's own desire which is getting transformed from Consciousness.

Consciousness principle can be experienced internally by being aware and see all the reflection outside are mere consciousness expansion.

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