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Fermentation and Health 4 years 7 months ago #1954

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Hello Sir,

Can you please clarify whether the fermented rice can be had during pregnancy to improve the gut health ? Can you please offer suggestions ? I find your site very helpful.

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Re: Fermentation and Health 6 years 7 months ago #1247

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Yes that will help. Remember your gut is like exactly like farming. In farming, weeds need to be continously be removed. It is not just a week practice. of course for one week if you remove all weeds , then the plant you want to farm will grow good, but slowly the weeds will pop up.

Honey orange and water just may not change normal gut flora. You need really herbs, castor oil to get good gut flora.

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Re: Fermentation and Health 6 years 7 months ago #1244

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Can we do Fermented meals going on a fast for few times say One week or so just like Honies and orange Normal water going on a fast or juice going on a fast with the item to improve the gut plants and then get back to frequent food?

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Must the rice be drained after it has been fermented?
Not needed, infact, that water contains millions of healthy bacterias. Do not warm it above room temperature and kill the bacteria.

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Re: Fermentation and Health 6 years 9 months ago #1172

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As I wrote earlier, we are a bacterial body and not a human body in terms of quantity of cells. Our skin do contain healthy bacteria keeping our skin in good condition. when the skin bacteria is disturbed then we get skin infections.

An Indian lady complained that the idli's she makes does not come good. I asked her to describe the way she does. She mixes ground urid dal and ground rice with a spoon and not with hand. She is in USA and naturally the concept of cleanliness is without any Viveka.

I said the hand bacteria makes the idli taste better and soft. She tried and she said amazingly her Idli was good.

The fermented idli batter or yogurt if allowed too much time will turn sour but not bad. Sour is because that lacto bacillus bacteris grew too much and secreted lactic acid in higher amounts. This is not bad for health but is not tasty. A food is bad when unhealthy bacteria or unwanted bacteria or fungus grows inj food. That causes food poisoning. So food poisoning is different from fermentation, though both are increased bacterial growth in food.

Same way fermented rice if kept for a longer time, is not bad, but not good to taste. So we keep for enough time for both health and taste.
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Re: Fermentation and Health 6 years 9 months ago #1171

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Does our skin contain healthy bacteria? Can we use the fermented rice even till afternoon? Won't it have bad effect like that of left over food or old foods?

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Re: Fermentation and Health 6 years 9 months ago #1169

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I soak in night, morning by 4:30 am i pressure rice in same water. The cooked rice always will have some leftover water. -- Do i need to evaporate this water and add another set of warm water / can i put curd in this same water


This is how I do. Soak rice in the morning with water. Cook the rice in the evening in the same water and after cooking Keep the left over water in the rice. Add some more water and mix cooked rice with clean hands (just tap washing of the hands is fine). Then the bacteria from your hand-skin will get into the rice and allow it to ferment. Allow this cooked rice to ferment till next day morning or till lunch time. I usually eat the fermented rice.

Best is to not add yogurt in fermented rice because yogurt contains lacto bacillus species of bacteria while fermented rice without yogurt will have other healthy bacteria. Addition of yogurt to fermented bacteria will bring a competition between two groups of healthy bacteria and the yogurt bacteria will win over.

So eating fermented rice without yogurt is the best. But if you have no choice, you can add yogurt while eating so that you eat both the healthy types of bacteria.

I eat for lunch rice along with vegetables curries with regular rice or with fermented rice. But I eat yogurt rice with fermented rice to end the lunch. This way I eat everyday healthy fermented bacteria.

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Re: Fermentation and Health 6 years 10 months ago #1058

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How should I eat the fermented rice for healing candida infection in the gut. do i eat it alone or with other food.

For a few weeks if one can be on fermented foods like rice along with steamed vegetables and free from processed foods, there will be good improvement.

Can i add palm sugar? Small amounts okay.

is it better in the morning or at night? Any time good. Better avoid in night time. Use other grains in the times when you dont eat fermented rice.

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Re: Fermentation and Health 7 years 1 month ago #927

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You are right you can do 5 to 7 days eat more fermented food.

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Re: Fermentation and Health 7 years 1 month ago #872

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Can we do Fermented food fasting for few days say 5 days or so just like Honey and lemon Water fasting or juice fasting with the object to increase the gut flora and then get back to regular food?

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Each grain has some specific bacteria and fermentation augments its growth. Finger millets also brings its own benefit. Infact all ancient cultures did more fermentation and harvested the gut-microbe advantage.

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Re: Fermentation and Health 7 years 1 month ago #857

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Can using Finger millet for Fermentation which is cooked along with little white rice also give the same benefit?

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Re: Fermentation and Health 7 years 2 months ago #470

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Is it important to explain how to disinfect the fermented water with either spices and salt or the rice with chili and onion

We have the fermented bacteria to colonize the gut and tilt the ratio of good bacteria to the higher side. Ancient people did not disinfect and fermented products like yogurt and fermented rice. It was avoided to take care of gut bacteria.

Question from a friend: I saw a video where the guy soaks only for four hours and throws away the soaking water. Is this correct.
People do all variations of soaking ....like only for 4 hours and throwing the water. Intention of action is different as I always write in five levels. His soaking for 4 hours is to make it soft, no other thought than that. His throwing water is to get rid of smell of the soaking.

What I mention is more than softness and smell. You could do like him or like what I suggest. Both of us are correct in our own level , but the results are different. This also applies to any action. This is also the karma theory. Whatever everyone does is right and get results accordingly.

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Re: Fermentation and Health 7 years 2 months ago #469

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Could you please explain what are we actually expecting from this process of fermentation of rice apart from getting good bacteria and Vit B12?

see the explanation about ratio of good balance and bad balance.


Why will lactic acid bacteria alone dominate when we add yogurt with different kinds bacterial cultures?
Simple logic of Competition and dominance.
Whenever I take fermented rice, I get cough problem. Is there any way to avoid this?
Try with small red onions (Shallots). The sulphur in it can help the throat from get over reacted to bacteria and producing phlegm.

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Re: Fermentation and Health 7 years 3 months ago #464

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Good video, thanks for uploading it.
Whenever I take fermented rice, I get cough problem. Is there any way to avoid this?

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Re: Fermentation and Health 7 years 3 months ago #439

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It is necessary to cook the rice the previous night add water and a spoon of curd to help fermentation only then the fermentation can occur. Only this fermented rice contains the healthy bacteria which is the objective of having fermented rice. And do not forget to soak the rice before cooking that helps to activate the enzymes in the rice.

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Thanks doctor.
Could you please explain what are we actually expecting from this process of fermentation of rice apart from getting good bacteria and Vit B12?

Why will lactic acid bacteria alone dominate when we add yogurt with different kinds bacterial cultures?

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Fermentation and Health 7 years 3 months ago #436

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See the health benefits of eating fermented rice (Palaya pazhayasadham) and home-made yogurt.

A Human body has 50 to 75 trillion human cells and more than 100 trillion bacteria cells and most of them in gut . Now researchers are finding that, it is the ratio of good bacteria over bad bacteria in gut that is the cause for obesity, allergies, immunity, high cholesterol, Autism (???), diabetes, depression and many more. So keep gut with good bacteria. Lactic acid bacteria are good bacteria.

see many recent references like
Stress Affects the Balance of Bacteria in the Gut and Immune Response

What's Your Gut Type? Gut Bacteria Could Help With Diagnostics and Influence Treatments

Mind-Altering Microbes: Probiotic Bacteria May Lessen Anxiety and Depression


Gut Bacteria Can Control Organ Functions

Healthy Gut Flora Could Prevent Obesity, Rat Study Suggests

Mother's Diet Influences Baby's Allergies, Research Suggests

Viruses in the Human Gut Show Dynamic Response to Diet

The Microbiome and Disease: Gut Bacteria Influence the Severity of Heart Attacks in Rats

Study Linking Gut Microbe Type With Diet Has Implications for Fighting GI Disorders

Diabetes May Start in the Intestines, Research Suggests

Learning How Gut Bacteria Influence Health: Scientists Crack Sparse Genome of Microbe Linked to Autoimmunity

[url=Irritable Bowel Syndrome: Common Gastrointestinal Disorder Linked to Bacterial Overgrowth, Food Poisoning]Irritable Bowel Syndrome: Common Gastrointestinal Disorder Linked to Bacterial Overgrowth, Food Poisoning[/url]

Gut Bacteria Linked to Behavior: That Anxiety May Be in Your Gut, Not in Your Head

Bacteria in the Gut of Autistic Children Different from Non-Autistic Children

The list continues.........
Click here to read about Gut bacteria .

Regarding fermented rice,

Click here to how to prepare fermented rice or barley .

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Do we need to throw the water in which the rice was soaked before cooking or do we need to cook the rice in the same water in which the brown rice was soaked?
It is better to cook in the same water the rice has been soaked to prevent loss of nutrients.

Is it okay, if we can cook rice in the morning and directly add buttermilk and have it instead of fermenting the rice overnight?
If you add buttermilk, lactic acid bacteria dominates.
As we add the buttermilk, anyway the good bacteria will be introduced into our body along with the Vit B12 through rice. In india natural fermentation occurs without buttermilk addition. The trick is to mix rice with clean hands. Then while mixing naturally good skin bacteria stumbles into the rice and start to grow and ferment rice. Then yogurt is not needed.


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