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Consciousness and Energy 6 years 9 months ago #1799

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Consciousness and Energy 6 years 9 months ago #1801

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So the "I" which we identify by that would be the "ego" or energy or is it consciousness?

Anything that is manifested in time and space is Energy. So Ego is an Energy form and not Consciousness. It is one single thought, ironically controlling all other thoughts. If mind is a country came of many thoughts, then spirituality will be a democratic system. Non-spiritual nature will be an autocratic monarchy with one single Ego thought dominating all other thoughts. (This is symbolised as Duryodhan taking over Hastinapur .

This Energy sucking ASPECT of one dominating thought, is Ego, causing suffering in life.

If not, is consciousness hidden within us which we have to discover?

This one single ego thought dominates even the infinite Consciousness, like a tiny black umbrella can cover the vision of the might sun. There is nothing to dis-cover (Remove cover) the always present sun in the sky. Similarly, nothing the discover the Consciousness, but only remove the cover of the tyrant Ego.

Is it the same consciousness in all of us ? Are we all like tentacles of an octopus? I mean connected to the same thing projected out?


Consciousness is one and the Same, Energy is projected , yet we are connected like your beautiful metaphor of an Octopus.

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Consciousness and Energy 6 years 8 months ago #1803

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So far summary is
1) Consciousness manifests as energy.
2) We are energy including the "I" or ego
3) Energy ie us has to indulge in certain action or transformations to itself ie get rid of the ego-self to lapse back to consciousness


1) Till energy ie us lapse back to consciousness we would I suppose continue the cycle of life and death? Yes "I" Energy-Awareness would undergo cycles of life and death.

2) Once we move back to consciousness would that be permanent or after some time consciousness feels need to experience itself again and manifests as energy?
Like a salt doll dissolves in an ocean, there is no more "I". Another salt doll with an "I" could form.

The inner cycle is life and death and the outer cycle in consciousness manifesting as energy and lapsing and re-manifesting as energy? Is it some eternal cycle
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Yes, you could imagine like waves in ocean continuously forming and and merging back to ocean. Till then a wave internally undergoes several million cycle of internal life and death.

Unfortunately the catch-20 is that the "I" Ego's each life and death cycle is not the same. It undergoes ups and downs with health, wealth, power, relationships etc in each cycle of life and death. This uncomfortness/ uncertainty is the driving force to end the cycle.

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Consciousness and Energy 6 years 7 months ago #1817

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Does that mean consciousness has a thinking process or is like a human which wants to experience ?

According to the definition of wiki on "Thought"....Thinking allows humans to make sense of, interpret, represent or model the world they experience, and to make predictions about that world. It is therefore helpful to an organism with needs, objectives, and desires as it makes plans or otherwise attempts to accomplish those goals.

For man, thinking makes sense only with "Brain and nervous system). But even a bacteria has a thought without these nervous system. They can make complex decision making than thought .

What about big-bang "Energy" that evolved as all the stars and planets....is it without a logic?. Cant we say that is thinking.

In this sense, yes Consciousness also has thinking....

Another question, can consciousness manifest as something other than energy? Since the energy is one form of experience, there could be countless other possibilities unknown to us.
That countless possibilities is what we call as Energy.

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